Public Defender William Harris: "This is a computer case where counsel for Mr Sutcliffe is like a child learning the scales and Mr. Sutcliffe is playing Beethoven piano sonatas. It's like if he spoke -- if it was in Chinese and he spoke Chinese and I didn't. In a computer case where you’ve got all sorts of computer evidence coupled with the problem that the client has technical expertise that the lawyer doesn't, it just compounds the issue."